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61' Barnett class lifeboat

a total scratch build of one of the RNLI's largest lifeboats, of the 1920's

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Ray Wood 208/07/2022 19:48:02
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Hi Neil,

Thanks for your kind offer of the drawing, I have PM'd you my address

My challenge will be to make the whole boat from scratch, just buying motors couplings & shafts and props, I may live regret it !!

Regards Ray

neil howard-pritchard08/07/2022 20:23:34
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Posted by Colin Bishop on 08/07/2022 18:57:05:

That's a really interesting prototype Neil and one which seems to have been neglected by modellers.

It will be interesting to follow the build of what is quite a large model.

Colin

i've never seen a model of her, even in my early years reading model boats. Brian King came close to it when he either built or restored the smaller 51' barnett that he wrote about in the magazine.

my only problem is, the switch or lock on the tailgate of my old workhorse has gone wrong and I can't get the rear open until next week when my mechanic is going to look at it............as such i can't get any lengths of ply for the build in to the car lol.....

neil howard-pritchard10/07/2022 17:09:04
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rather than sit around doing nothing, this afternoon have transfered the first two cross frames, numbers 5 and 6, the centre two widest frames on to art framing card.

Normally i would have just photocopied the frame drawings on to A3 paper, the number of frames needed and folded down the virtical centre line and then cut out the respective frame number, around that fold line.

However these frames are so wide and deep, that they wouldn't fit on to A3 paper.

And so i cut the two sets down the virtival centre line which in itself gives the posotion of the backbone keel frame, and cut down to the outer frames 5 and 6 first, repeating the second half of each frame by reversing the frme on to the other side of the virtical centre line of the card that i had pencilled on.

the first two frames are now ready to draw around on ply, when i buy it on tuesdy after having my car fixed.

 

but looking at the frames, she is going to be a big impressive beast indeed.

the process will be repeated by cutting down the next frame lines in to repeat the process once frames have been transfered to timber.

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ashley needham11/07/2022 09:31:53
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Thats a whopper Neil. Just think of the team on chaps you will need to launch it!!

Just shows you that there are interesting boats still out there in plain sight, even in the lifeboat world.

Ashley

neil howard-pritchard11/07/2022 18:17:37
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Posted by ashley needham on 11/07/2022 09:31:53:

Thats a whopper Neil. Just think of the team on chaps you will need to launch it!!

Just shows you that there are interesting boats still out there in plain sight, even in the lifeboat world.

Ashley

a back breaker matey.......it wont be sailed very often lol.

neil howard-pritchard14/07/2022 22:50:47
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been dong a wee bit of behind the scenes work today.

first of all i finally managed to purchase some planks of obeche timber from a company that had promised to dug them out from under another pile of timber in May...........that was May 2019, all it took was a telephone call to the manager and a 45 minute drive from my home in Poulton le Fylde.

and through all sorts of problems, including covid i was finally able to track down the sawmill's manager and explain to him just how many times i had asked for this timber.

it took the manager just 5 minutes to actually dig out the 3 planks that i wanted for just over 3 years.......and then said.........i can't understand what the problem has been.....just 5 minutes work!!!

and the best bit was, i got it at 2018 prices...........absolute magic.

so tonight i started doctoring with Tipp-ex all the un-needed lines on the small plans from a book so that i can get the GA's for the Princess Mary, as oposed to the William and Kate Johnston that the main set of lines are already for the build!

The "MARY" was 1 foot longer but same beam as the "Johnston" purely because the "Mary" had a more pronounsed stem post and as such lengthened the boat by that one foot....
the plans can now be photo enlarged at Granthams printers, Blackpool digitally next week.pictures are of the plans, and my 3 planks of obeche, 10" x 1" x 16 foot with the green end grain colouring'

The work will start later next week.

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gecon15/07/2022 08:41:11
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Very interesting project Neil. You may need to design a launching cradle on a block and tackle for it!

I note that the Barnett class was introduced around the time the Colin Archer's were phased out as rescue vessels in Norway.

The last Colin Archers built also had a bit added to the stem by straightening the bowline. Must have been a general design trend at the time -to help the bow cut through the waves better ? Or to push the sea aside?

George

neil howard-pritchard15/07/2022 14:02:30
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Posted by gecon on 15/07/2022 08:41:11:

Very interesting project Neil. You may need to design a launching cradle on a block and tackle for it!

I note that the Barnett class was introduced around the time the Colin Archer's were phased out as rescue vessels in Norway.

The last Colin Archers built also had a bit added to the stem by straightening the bowline. Must have been a general design trend at the time -to help the bow cut through the waves better ? Or to push the sea aside?

George

that is interesting George.......at the time around the early 1920's the RNLI were not only selling licenses for the Germans and dutch and Australian lifeboat services to build from the RNLI plans drawn for them, but they were also building at sime stage full boats to the purchasers requirements.

neil howard-pritchard15/07/2022 14:03:50
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the plans have now been enlarged again, and as such are now 6 times the size that they were in the book that i originally took them from.

some more cleaning up with tippex and lining with a drawing pen of the main deck details and it will be then ready for the final enlargement by 275% of the new photocopy.

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neil howard-pritchard15/07/2022 15:35:43
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now cleaned up the enlargment with tipp-ex and calculated that I now need to enlarge this set by 275% to give it a hull measurement between perpendiculars of the 61" required.

It actually comes out from that enlargement at 61.05", which i can deal with lol.

It is now a lot clearer of the deck lyout, the size and shape of the cabin and engine casement and all of the deck lights, hatches, fuel filler and bilge pump deck caps, with just a few slall details such as the bow anchor windlass and another small fitting on the engine room casing next to the front of the raised cabin cockpit that i am not sure of, but most of the fittings and such are items i have in stock from my other lifeboats that i have built........

Quite happy about that.......

roll on geting my obeche on thursday of next week.

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