Chris E | 13/09/2023 20:15:21 |
513 forum posts | Posted by Colin Bishop on 13/09/2023 19:50:55:
Does it really matter, just build it the size you want it to be Yes, quite, but it is aimed at beginners who probably expect to be able to cut out the bits from the pages in the magazine rather than have them enlarged first.. Colin ......if they even recognize that they need to enlarge them and what size model the running gear is designed to support. It isn't the enlarging that is the biggest problem but rather the lack of it being obvious that you need to do so and just how much. Ray's argument that they do a good job as they have very little experience of modelling doesn't really cut it for me either. If the magazine is to survive it needs to be a polished professional product and the excuse that those producing it know little about the subject just doesn't achieve that. Edited By Chris E on 13/09/2023 20:20:10 |
Ray Wood 2 | 13/09/2023 20:30:28 |
![]() 3205 forum posts 1142 photos | Hi Chris Not really an argument at all just a statement of fact ! You'd better get your CV to Morton's Regards Ray |
David Marks 1 | 13/09/2023 21:13:13 |
327 forum posts 44 photos | The free plan for the November 2023 edition is my creation. Lindsey has the build guide, the images to accompany it and the plan is currently being CADified. The plan defines the hull dimensions i.e. length and beam. There is also a reference scale with increments of 50mm along one long and one short side of the plan. For those interested, is that sufficient information? |
Chris Fellows | 13/09/2023 22:06:06 |
![]() 1457 forum posts 877 photos | Hi David When you say the plan defines the dimensions do you mean that these are actually stated in mm? If so, that's great. The reference scales are good as well. Are they quite long as that provides more accuracy when printing/scaling up. To be honest the overall length and beam are more important especially if indicated by dimension lines as this clarifies where the dimensions relate e.g. inside or outside rubbing strips etc. I produce my own drawings and don't always draw full size and so when printing at say 120% having reference points/distances is invaluable. Chris Edited By Chris Fellows on 13/09/2023 22:18:22 |
Colin Bishop | 13/09/2023 22:08:07 |
![]() 5438 forum posts 6188 photos 435 articles | It should be but make sure it happens when you get the proofs to check. As suggested by others, the accompanying article should also state key dimensions (length & beam) etc. to back up the plan. Is the digital version of the plan being tiled as seems to be the standard now? It may be stating the obvious but often the obvious needs to be stated! I look forward to seeing it. Colin |
Chris E | 13/09/2023 22:20:15 |
513 forum posts | Posted by David Marks 1 on 13/09/2023 21:13:13:
The free plan for the November 2023 edition is my creation. Lindsey has the build guide, the images to accompany it and the plan is currently being CADified. The plan defines the hull dimensions i.e. length and beam. There is also a reference scale with increments of 50mm along one long and one short side of the plan. For those interested, is that sufficient information? That sounds great. Thank you. With tiled plans it isn't easy to see the overall dimensions so having them in the article is really helpful whilst the scales on the plans are also of great value when looking at parts. I look forward to seeing it. As Colin says just make sure what they are doing is what you expect! Edited By Chris E on 13/09/2023 22:25:16 |
Colin Bishop | 14/09/2023 20:08:23 |
![]() 5438 forum posts 6188 photos 435 articles | Glynn is not pleased about his plan! He had prepared it for two A3 sheets in the expectation that elevation and plan view would be displayed horizontally across the centrespread where it would have fitted at full size. The pages comprising the reverse of the centrespread could have been used to display the various parts. Looking at the article there would have been room to do this by reducing the size of the large images illustrating the article. Instead the sheets were reduced to A4 and the length of the model from 14 inches to 10 inches. It isn’t clear why this was done. Colin |
Chris E | 14/09/2023 20:50:01 |
513 forum posts | I am not surprised that Glynn isn't pleased. There can't be many others with as much experience of having centre page plans published as Glynn. Funny that all the others have been done the same way until this one. Just another example of style over function (one of my per hates). The problems with both your & Glynn's plans suggest that there is a real problem at the magazine that needs addressing. What are they going to do with future plans to stop this happening again. |
David Marks 1 | 14/09/2023 21:35:19 |
327 forum posts 44 photos | Posted by Chris Fellows on 13/09/2023 22:06:06:
Hi David When you say the plan defines the dimensions do you mean that these are actually stated in mm? If so, that's great. The reference scales are good as well. Are they quite long as that provides more accuracy when printing/scaling up. To be honest the overall length and beam are more important especially if indicated by dimension lines as this clarifies where the dimensions relate e.g. inside or outside rubbing strips etc. I produce my own drawings and don't always draw full size and so when printing at say 120% having reference points/distances is invaluable.
Edited By Chris Fellows on 13/09/2023 22:18:22 Chris Yes the o/a length and beam are defined in millimetres just below the title block in David Metcalfe fashion, if you have ever seen any of his plans, I can add the two arrows for these two dimensions when I get the plan back for review. I will also add a dimension for the "recommended freeboard" to the plan, although it is defined in the text covering the build. The two scales cover the full length/height of my plan sheets which I produced at A2. but I expect the version for the mag will be both sides of of A1 or A0. It may be an idea to change my 50 mm increments to 25 mm and possibly add imperial scales (1 inch increments) on the other two edges of what i would call the "drawing blank". Although I have been working in metric (for work related drawings) since about 1967.
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Chris Fellows | 15/09/2023 00:14:05 |
![]() 1457 forum posts 877 photos | Hi David Sounds as though you have it covered. Personally I wouldn't bother with imperial as well as most builders are able to build from metric drawings. I've worked in both professionally and find metric more convenient for model boat building. Well everything really! Chris |
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